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Combining Spectroscopic and Imaging Galaxy Surveys for Improved Measurements of Large-Scale Structure

Galaxy imaging surveys represent a promising opportunity for testing cosmological models but suffer from significant challenges associated with galaxy redshift uncertainty. I present improved techniques for the use of spectroscopic redshifts for measurements of large-scale structure with galaxy imaging surveys. I additionally present the results of the application of these techniques to data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS) and the Dark Energy Survey (DES). The results of my work are photometric redshift measurements of the approximately 100 million galaxies comprising the the DES Year 3 Weak Lensing Source Galaxy Catalog, constraints on parameters of the Lambda-CDM cosmological model based on the gravitational lensing and clustering of the DES Year 3 source and lens galaxy catalogs, an algorithm for propagating uncertainties measured in simulations to analogous measurements on data, and measurements of the incidence of projection effects in optically detected clusters of galaxies. I argue that continued development of the methods I have worked on is a promising path toward a conclusive test of Lambda-CDM with galaxy surveys.

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Quenching in the Right Place at the Right Time: Tracing the Shared History of Starbursts, Active Galactic Nuclei, and Poststarburst Galaxies Using Their Structures and Multiscale Environments

This work uses multiscale environments and the structures of galaxies in the Sloan Digital Sky Survey as consistency checks on the evolution from starburst to quiescence at redshift z < 0.2. The environmental indicators include fixed-aperture mass overdensities (δ xMpc , x ϵ {0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8} h –1 Mpc), k-nearest neighbor distances, the tidal parameter, halo mass (M h ), and satellite/central classification. The residuals of the specific star formation rates (Δ SSFRs) are used to select starbursts (ΔSSFR > 0.6 dex, N ≈ 8600). Quenched poststarbursts (QPSBs) are selected using Hα < 3 Å emission and Hδ A > 4 Å absorption (N ≈ 750). The environments of starbursts and QPSBs are compared with those of active galactic nuclei (AGNs) and inactive galaxies of varying ΔSSFR. The environments of starbursts, AGNs, and QPSBs are unlike the environments of most quiescent galaxies (QGs). About 70%–90% of starbursts, AGNs with Hδ A > 4 Å, and QPSBs are centrals; ~80%–90% have M h < 10 13 M ⊙ , and only ~2%–4% have M h > 10 14 M ⊙ or live in clusters. Their M h and satellite fractions are also different from those of QGs. All QPSBs are matched to some SFGs, starbursts, AGNs, and QGs of similar M $\star$ , environments, concentration indices, and velocity dispersions. A significant fraction (~20%–30%) of starbursts cannot be matched to QPSBs or QGs. The implications are that: (1) some starbursts do not quench rapidly; (2) the satellite-quenching mechanisms operating in high-density environments cannot account for most QPSBs; (3) the evolution from starbursts to QPSBs to QGs is not the dominant path at z < 0.2; and (4) starbursts are not mainly triggered by tidal interactions.

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The occurrence rate of galaxies with polar structures may be significantly underestimated

Polar-ring galaxies are photometrically and kinematically decoupled systems that are highly inclined to the major axis of the host. These galaxies have been explored since the 1970s, but the rarity of these systems has made such systematic studies difficult. However, over 250 good candidates have been identified. In this work, we examine a sample of over 18 000 galaxies from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS) Stripe 82 for the presence of galaxies with polar structures. Using deep SDSS Stripe 82, DESI Legacy Imaging Surveys, and Hyper Suprime-Cam Subaru Strategic Program, we selected 53 good candidate galaxies with photometrically decoupled polar rings, 9 galaxies with polar halos, 6 galaxies with polar bulges, and 34 possibly forming polar-ring galaxies, versus 13 polar-ring candidates previously selected in Stripe 82. Our results suggest that the occurrence rate of galaxies with polar structures may be significantly underestimated, as revealed by the deep observations, and may amount to 1–3% of non-dwarf galaxies.

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Completeness of the NASA/IPAC Extragalactic Database (NED) Local Volume Sample

We introduce the NASA/IPAC Extragalactic Database (NED) Local Volume Sample (NED-LVS), a subset of ~1.9 million objects with distances out to 1000 Mpc. We use UV and IR fluxes available in NED from all-sky surveys to derive physical properties, and estimate the completeness relative to the expected local luminosity density. The completeness relative to near-IR luminosities (which traces a galaxy's stellar mass) is roughly 100% at D < 30 Mpc and remains moderate (70%) out to 300 Mpc. For brighter galaxies (≳L * ), NED-LVS is ~100% complete out to ~400 Mpc. When compared to other local Universe samples (GLADE and HECATE), all three are ~100% complete below 30 Mpc. At distances beyond ~80 Mpc, NED-LVS is more complete than both GLADE and HECATE by ~10%–20%. NED-LVS is the underlying sample for the NED gravitational-wave follow-up service (NED-GWF), which provides prioritized lists of host candidates for GW events within minutes of alerts issued by the LIGO–Virgo–KAGRA collaboration. We test the prioritization of galaxies in the volume of GW170817 by three physical properties, where we find that both stellar mass and inverse specific star formation rate place the correct host galaxy in the top 10. In addition, NED-LVS can be used for a wide variety of other astrophysical studies: galaxy evolution, star formation, large-scale structure, galaxy environments, and more. The data in NED are updated regularly, and NED-LVS will be updated concurrently. Consequently, NED-LVS will continue to provide an increasingly complete sample of galaxies for a multitude of astrophysical research areas for years to come.

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The haloes and environments of nearby galaxies ( HERON ) – III. A 45-kpc spiral structure in the GLSB galaxy UGC 4599

ABSTRACT We use a 0.7-m telescope in the framework of the Halos and Environments of Nearby Galaxies (HERON) survey to probe low surface brightness (LSB) structures in nearby galaxies. One of our targets, UGC 4599, is usually classified as an early-type galaxy surrounded by a blue ring making it a potential Hoag’s Object analogue. Prior photometric studies of UGC 4599 were focused on its bright core and the blue ring. However, the HERON survey allows us to study its faint extended regions. With an 8-h integration, we detect an extremely faint outer disc with an extrapolated central surface brightness of μ0, d(r) = 25.5 mag arcsec−2 down to 31 mag arcsec−2 and a scale length of 15 kpc. We identify two distinct spiral arms of pitch angle ∼6○ surrounding the ring. The spiral arms are detected out to ∼45 kpc in radius and the faint disc continues to ∼70 kpc. These features are also seen in the GALEX far- and near-ultraviolet bands, in a deep u-band image from the 4.3-m Lowell Discovery Telescope (which reveals inner spiral structure emerging from the core), and in H i. We compare this galaxy to ordinary spiral and elliptical galaxies, giant low surface brightness (GLSB) galaxies, and Hoag’s Object itself using several standard galaxy scaling relations. We conclude that the pseudo-bulge and disc properties of UGC 4599 significantly differ from those of Hoag’s Object and of normal galaxies, pointing toward a GLSB galaxy nature and filamentary accretion of gas to generate its outer disc.

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Deep optical imaging of star-forming blue early-type galaxies: Color map structures and faint features indicative of recent mergers

Blue early-type galaxies with galaxy-scale ongoing star formation are interesting targets in order to understand the stellar mass buildup in elliptical and S0 galaxies in the local Universe. We study the star-forming population of blue early-type galaxies to understand the origin of star formation in these otherwise red and dead stellar systems. The legacy survey imaging data taken with the dark energy camera in the g, r, and z bands for 55 star-forming blue early-type galaxies were examined, and g – r color maps were created. We identified low surface brightness features near 37 galaxies, faint-level interaction signatures near 15 galaxies, and structures indicative of recent merger activity in the optical color maps of all 55 galaxies. These features are not visible in the shallow Sloan Digital Sky Survey imaging data in which these galaxies were originally identified. Low surface brightness features found around galaxies could be remnants of recent merger events. The star-forming population of blue early-type galaxies could be post-merger systems that are expected to be the pathway for the formation of elliptical galaxies. We hypothesize that the star-forming population of blue early-type galaxies is a stage in the evolution of early-type galaxies. The merger features will eventually disappear, fuel for star formation will cease, and the galaxy will move to the passive population of normal early-type galaxies.

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Galaxy Populations in Groups and Clusters: Evidence for a Characteristic Stellar Mass Scale at M * ~ 10 9.5 M ⊙

We use the DR9 of the DESI legacy imaging survey and SDSS galaxy groups to measure the conditional luminosity function (CLF) for groups with halo mass Mh ≥ 10 12 M ⊙ and redshift 0.01 ≤ z ≤ 0.08, down to a limiting r-band magnitude of M r = –10 to –12. For given halo masses we measure the CLF for the total populations and for the red and blue populations classified using the (g – z) color. We find a clear faint-end upturn in the CLF of red satellites, with a slope α ≈ –1.8, which is almost independent of halo mass. This faint-end upturn is not seen for the blue and total populations. Our stellar population synthesis modeling shows that (g – z) provides a clean red/blue division and that red group galaxies defined by (g – z) are all dominated by old stellar populations. The fraction of old galaxies as a function of galaxy luminosity shows a minimum at M r ~ –18, corresponding to M * ~ 10 9.5 M ⊙ . This scale is independent of halo mass and is comparable to the characteristic luminosity at which galaxies show a dichotomy in surface brightness and size, suggesting that the dichotomy in the old fraction and in galaxy structure may have a common origin. The rising of the old fraction at the faint end for Milky Way (MW)–sized halos is in good agreement with the quenched fraction measured for the MW/M31 system and from the ELVES survey. We discuss the implications of our results for the formation and evolution of low-mass galaxies and for the stellar mass functions of low-mass galaxies to be observed at high redshift.

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Dissipative Dark Substructure: The Consequences of Atomic Dark Matter on Milky Way Analog Subhalos

Using cosmological hydrodynamical zoom-in simulations, we explore the properties of subhalos in Milky Way analogs that contain a subcomponent of atomic dark matter (ADM). ADM differs from cold dark matter (CDM) due to the presence of self-interactions that lead to energy dissipation, analogous to standard model baryons. This model can arise in dark sectors that are natural and theoretically motivated extensions to the standard model. The simulations used in this work were carried out using GIZMO and utilize the FIRE-2 galaxy formation physics in the standard model baryonic sector. For the parameter points we consider, the ADM gas cools efficiently, allowing it to collapse to the center of subhalos. This increases a subhalo's central density and affects its orbit, with more subhalos surviving small pericentric passages. The subset of subhalos that host satellite galaxies have cuspier density profiles and smaller stellar half-mass radii relative to CDM. The entire population of dwarf galaxies produced in the ADM simulations is more compact than those seen in CDM simulations, unable to reproduce the entire diversity of observed dwarf galaxy structures. Additionally, we also identify a population of highly compact subhalos that consist nearly entirely of ADM and form in the central region of the host, where they can leave distinctive imprints in the baryonic disk. This work presents the first detailed exploration of subhalo properties in a strongly dissipative dark matter scenario, providing intuition for how other regions of ADM parameter space, as well as other dark sector models, would impact galactic-scale observables.

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Wet compaction to a blue nugget: a critical phase in galaxy evolution

ABSTRACT We utilize high-resolution cosmological simulations to reveal that high-redshift galaxies tend to undergo a robust ‘wet compaction’ event when near a ‘golden’ stellar mass of $\sim \!\!10^{10}\, \rm M_\odot$ . This is a gaseous shrinkage to a compact star-forming phase, a ‘blue nugget’ (BN), followed by central quenching of star formation to a compact passive stellar bulge, a ‘red nugget’ (RN), and a buildup of an extended gaseous disc and ring. Such nuggets are observed at cosmic noon and seed today’s early-type galaxies. The compaction is triggered by a drastic loss of angular momentum due to, e.g. wet mergers, counter-rotating cold streams, or violent disc instability. The BN phase marks drastic transitions in the galaxy structural, compositional, and kinematic properties. The transitions are from star forming to quenched inside-out, from diffuse to compact with an extended disc or ring and a stellar envelope, from dark matter to baryon central dominance, from prolate to oblate stellar shape, from pressure to rotation support, from low to high metallicity, and from supernova to AGN feedback. The central black hole growth, first suppressed by supernova feedback when below the golden mass, is boosted by the compaction, and the black hole keeps growing once the halo is massive enough to lock in the supernova ejecta.

Lapiner, Sharon (ORCID:0009000409733232)↗

Measuring the streaming motion in the Milky Way disc with Gaia EDR3+

We map the 3D kinematics of the Galactic disc out to 3.5 kpc from the Sun, and within 0.75 kpc from the mid-plane of the Galaxy. To this end, we combine high-quality astrometry from Gaia EDR3, with heliocentric line-of-sight velocities from Gaia DR2, and spectroscopic surveys including APOGEE, GALAH, and LAMOST. We construct an axisymmetric model for the mean velocity field, and subtract this on a star-by-star basis to obtain the residual velocity field in the Galactocentric components (V Φ , V R , V z ), and V los . The velocity residuals are quantified using the power spectrum, and we find that the peak power (A/[km s –1 ]) in the mid-plane (|z| < 0.25 kpc) is (A Φ , A R , A Z , A los ) = (4.2,8.5,2.6,4.6), at 0.25 < |z|/[kpc] < 0.5, is (A Φ , A R , A Z , A los ) = (4.0,7.9,3.6,5.3), and at 0.5 < |z|/[kpc] < 0.75, is (A Φ , A R , A Z , A los ) = (1.9,6.9,5.2,6.4). Our results provide a sophisticated measurement of the streaming motion in the disc and in the individual components. We find that streaming is most significant in VR, and at all heights (|Z|) probed, but is also non-negligible in other components. Additionally, we find that patterns in velocity field overlap spatially with models for spiral arms in the Galaxy. Our simulations show that phase-mixing of disrupting spiral arms can generate such residuals in the velocity field, where the radial component is dominant, just as in real data. Furthermore, we also find that with time evolution, both the amplitude and physical scale of the residual motion decrease.

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Survey of Gravitationally lensed objects in HSC Imaging (SuGOHI). VIII. New galaxy-scale lenses from the HSC SSP

Abstract We conduct a search for galaxy-scale strong gravitational lens systems in Data Release 4 of the Hyper Suprime-Cam Subaru Strategic Program (HSC SSP), consisting of data taken up to the S21A semester. We select 103191 luminous red galaxies from the Baryon Oscillation Spectroscopic Survey (BOSS) sample that have deep multiband imaging from the HSC SSP and use the YattaLens algorithm to identify lens candidates with blue arc-like features automatically. The candidates are visually inspected and graded based on their likelihood of being a lens. We find eight definite lenses, 28 probable lenses, and 138 possible lenses. The new lens candidates generally have lens redshifts in the range 0.3 ≲ zL ≲ 0.9, a key intermediate redshift range to study the evolution of galaxy structure. Follow-up spectroscopy will confirm these new lenses and measure source redshifts to enable detailed lens modeling.

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Vertical Structure of Local Disk Galaxies Revealed by DESI Imaging Data

The vertical structure of galactic disks is an important probe of the disk assembly history. Here we investigate the vertical structure of a sample of 79 local disk galaxies within 50 Mpc using data from the Dark Energy Spectroscopic Instrument Legacy Imaging Surveys. Vertical luminosity profiles as a function of radius in the g, r, and z bands are extracted and fitted using a single-component sech2 model to determine scale height and its radial variation (i.e., flaring). Our measurements indicate local galactic disks are overall thin with negligible flaring. The median scale heights at 1 R e are 0.21, 0.22, and 0.22 kpc in the g, r, and z bands, respectively, while the median radial gradients of scale height are −0.006, 0.003, and 0.001 in these bands. These values are consistent with that of the geometric thin disk of the Milky Way represented by metal-rich, low-[α/Fe] populations, confirming the weak flaring of the geometric thin disk. A clear positive correlation of scale height with stellar mass is observed down to the low-mass end of 10 7 M ⊙ . These results provide a homogeneous benchmark for the vertical structure of nearby disk galaxies and establish the cosmological representativeness of the Milky Way thin disk.

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Galaxy Alignments with Surrounding Structure in the Sloan Digital Sky Survey

Using data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey Legacy Survey, we study the alignment of luminous galaxies with spectroscopic data with the surrounding larger-scale structure as defined by galaxies with only photometric data. We find that galaxies from the red sequence have a statistically significant tendency for their apparent long axes to align parallel to the projected surrounding structure. Red galaxies more luminous than the median of our sample (M r < –21.78) have a mean alignment angle $\langle$Φ$\rangle$ < 45°, indicating preferred parallel alignment, at a significance level >4.5σ on projected scales 0.1 Mpc < r p ≤ 7.5 Mpc. Fainter red galaxies have $\langle$Φ$\rangle$ < 45° at a significance level >4.3σ at scales 1 Mpc < r p < 3 Mpc. At a projected scale r p = 3.0 Mpc, the mean alignment angle decreases steadily with increasing luminosity for red galaxies with M r ≲ –22.5, reaching $\langle$Φ$\rangle$ = 40$^{°}_{.}$49 ± 0$^{°}_{.}$56 for the most luminous 1% (M r ~ –23.57). Galaxies from the blue sequence show no statistically significant tendency for their axes to align with larger-scale structure, regardless of galaxy luminosity. Galaxies in higher-density regions do not show a statistically significant difference in the mean alignment angle from galaxies in lower-density regions; this holds true for the faint blue, luminous blue, faint red, and luminous red subsets.

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DESI Massive Poststarburst Galaxies at z ~ 1.2 Have Compact Structures and Dense Cores

Poststarburst galaxies (PSBs) are young quiescent galaxies that have recently experienced a rapid decrease in star formation, allowing us to probe the fast-quenching period of galaxy evolution. In this work, we obtained Hubble Space Telescope (HST)/WFC3 F110W imaging to measure the sizes of 171 massive (log(M $\ast$ /M ⊙ ) ~ 11) spectroscopically identified PSBs at 1 < z 1.3 selected from the DESI Survey Validation luminous red galaxy sample. This statistical sample constitutes an order of magnitude increase from the ~20 PSBs with space-based imaging and deep spectroscopy. We perform structural fitting of the target galaxies with pysersic and compare them to quiescent and star-forming galaxies in the 3D-HST survey. We find that these PSBs are more compact than the general population of quiescent galaxies, lying systematically ~0.1 dex below the established size–mass relation. However, their central surface mass densities are similar to those of their quiescent counterparts (log(Σ 1kpc /(M ⊙ kpc -2 ))~10.1). These findings are easily reconciled by later ex situ growth via minor mergers or a slight progenitor bias. These PSBs are round in projection (b/a median ~ 0.8), suggesting that they are primarily spheroids, not disks, in 3D. We find no correlation between the time since quenching and light-weighted PSB sizes or central densities. This disfavors apparent structural growth due to the fading of centralized starbursts in this galaxy population. Instead, we posit that the fast quenching of massive galaxies at this epoch occurs preferentially in galaxies with preexisting compact structures.

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Galaxies with biconical ionized structure in MaNGA – I. Sample selection and driven mechanisms

ABSTRACT Based on the integral field unit (IFU) data from Mapping Nearby Galaxies at Apache Point Observatory (MaNGA) survey, we develop a new method to select galaxies with biconical ionized structures, building a sample of 142 edge-on biconical ionized galaxies. We classify these 142 galaxies into 81 star-forming galaxies, 31 composite galaxies, and 30 AGNs (consisting of 23 Seyferts and 7 LI(N)ERs) according to the [N ii]-BPT diagram. The star-forming bicones have bar-like structures while AGN bicones display hourglass structures, and composite bicones exhibit transitional morphologies between them due to both black hole and star formation activities. Star-forming bicones have intense star formation activities in their central regions, and the primary driver of biconical structures is the central star formation rate surface density. The lack of difference in the strength of central black hole activities (traced by dust attenuation corrected [O iii]λ5007 luminosity and Eddington ratio) between Seyfert bicones and their control samples can be naturally explained as that the accretion disc and the galactic disc are not necessarily coplanar. Additionally, the biconical galaxies with central LI(N)ER-like line ratios are edge-on disc galaxies that show strong central dust attenuation. The radial gradients of H α surface brightness follow the r−2.35 relation, roughly consistent with r−2 profile, which is expected in the case of photoionization by a central point-like source. These observations indicate obscured AGNs or AGN echoes as the primary drivers of biconical structures in LI(N)ERs.

Zhou, Zhi-Jie (ORCID:0000000317096005)↗

Flares, Warps, Truncations, and Satellite: The Ultra-thin Galaxy UGC 11859

The structure of the outskirts of galaxies provides valuable information about their past and evolution. Due to their projected orientation, edge-on isolated galaxies effectively serve as test labs in which to study the three-dimensional structures of galaxies, including warps and flares, and to explore the possible sources of such distortions. We analyzed the structure of the apparently isolated edge-on ultra-thin galaxy UGC 11859 to look for the presence of distortions. The deep optical imaging observations (${\mu }_{\mathrm{lim}}=30.6$ and 30.0 $\mathrm{mag}\ {\mathrm{arcsec}}^{-2}$ in the g- and r-bands, respectively) we acquired with the 10.4 m Gran Telescopio Canarias are used to derive the radial and vertical surface brightness profiles and g - r color radial profile. We find that UGC 11859's disk displays a significant gravitational distortion. A warp is clearly detected on one side of the disk, and the galactic plane on both sides of the center shows increasing scale height with an increasing galactocentric radius, indicating the presence of a flare in the stellar distribution. The surface brightness profile of the disk shows a sharp break at 24 kpc galactocentric radius, and a steep decline to larger radii, an "edge-on truncation," which we associate with the presence of the flare. The present study is the first observational support for a connection between truncations and flares. Just beyond the warped side of the disk, a faint galaxy is observed within a small angular distance, identified as a potential interacting companion. Based on ultradeep g and r photometry we estimate that if the potential companion is at the same distance as UGC 11859, the stellar mass of the satellite galaxy is log 10 (M ⊙ ) = ${6.33}_{-0.02}^{+0.02}$ .

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iMaNGA: mock MaNGA galaxies based on IllustrisTNG and MaStar SSPs – I. Construction and analysis of the mock data cubes

ABSTRACT Galaxy formation and evolution simulations are essential tools to probe poorly known astrophysics processes, but particular care is needed to compare simulations with galaxy observations, as observed data need to be modelled as well. We present a method to generate mock galaxies from the hydro-dynamical IllustrisTNG simulations which are suited to compare with integral field spectroscopic observation of galaxies from the SDSS-IV/Mapping Nearby Galaxies at Apache Point Observatory (MaNGA) survey. First, we include the same instrumental effects and procedures as adopted in the acquisition and analysis of real data. Furthermore, we generate the galaxy spectra from the simulations using new stellar population models based on the MaNGA stellar library (MaStar). In this way, our mock data cubes have the same spatial sampling, cover the same wavelength range (3600–10 300 Å), and share the same spectral resolution (R ≈ 1800) and flux calibration of real MaNGA galaxy spectra. In this first paper, we demonstrate the method over an early- and a late-type simulated galaxy from TNG50. We analyse the correspondent mock MaNGA-like data cubes with the same full spectral fitting code, firefly, which was used for the observed spectra. We find that the intrinsic and recovered age and metallicity gradients are consistent within 1σ, with residuals over all tassels consistent with 0 at the 68 ${{\ \rm per\ cent}}$ confidence level. We also perform the challenging test at comparing intrinsic and recovered star formation histories, finding a close resemblance between input and output. In follow-up papers, we will present a full simulated MaNGA-like catalogue (≈10 000 galaxies) with a comprehensive comparison of TNG50 simulations to MaNGA observational results.

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Quashing a suspected selection bias in galaxy samples having dynamically measured supermassive black holes

Local early-type galaxies (ETGs) with directly measured black hole masses, M bh , have been reported to represent a biased sample relative to the ETG population at large. Such galaxies with Spitzer Space Telescope imaging have been purported to possess velocity dispersions, σ, at least ∼0.1 dex larger for a given galaxy stellar mass, M * , gal , than is typically observed among thousands of ETGs imaged by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS). This apparent offset led Shankar et al. to reduce the normalisation of the observed M bh ∝ σ 5 relation by at least ∼0.5 dex to give their ‘intrinsic relations’, including σ-based modifications to the observed M bh –M * , gal relation. These modifications were based on the untested assumption that the stellar masses had been derived consistently between the two samples. Here, we provide the necessary check using galaxies common to the Spitzer Survey of Stellar Structure in Galaxies (S 4 G) and the SDSS. We find that the stellar masses of galaxies with and without directly measured black hole masses had appeared offset from each other due to the use of inconsistent stellar mass-to-light ratios, Υ * , for the optical and infrared data. We briefly discuss the ‘intrinsic relations’ and why some of these will at times appear to have had partial success when applied to data based on similarly inconsistent values ofΥ * . Finally, we reiterate the importance of the υ (lower-case Υ) term, which we previously introduced into the M bh –M * relations to help avoid Υ * -related mismatches.

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